Autor Thema: Bugverdacht: Chances to be best  (Gelesen 730 mal)

Martin

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Bugverdacht: Chances to be best
« am: 27. Mai 2016, 18:55:58 »
Mir fiel gerade folgendes auf: ich habe hier mitf File - Export - Position to Clipboard eine Position in die Zwischenablage kopiert, um sie hier zu posten. Dabei fiel mir auf, dass die Prozentzahl rechts (unter "Conf." und über "Duration") nicht mit der Zahl "Chances to be best" übereinstimmte, die in der Originadatei zu lesen war. Daraufhin habe ich die Originaldatei nochmal gespeichert (ohne jegliche Veränderung) und nochmals Kopie in die Zwischenablage - Ergebnis: Der Prozentwert änderte sich. Das ganze noch ein drittes mal, wieder ein neuer Wert. Beim vierten mal dann der gleiche Wert wie in der Originaldatei.

Und ich kann den Fehler reproduzieren:

         

 

                     
      is Player 2

      score: 0
      pip: 157    
     Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver      
     pip: 173
      score: 0

       is Player 1    
 
XGID=-a----E-C--aeD---cAe----AA:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.Rollout1Bar/22 13/8eq: -0,278
Player:
Opponent:
43,43% (G:11,32% B:0,47%)
56,57% (G:16,57% B:0,85%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,280...-0,275) - [50,5%]
Duration: 8 hours 55 minutes
2.Rollout1Bar/22 6/1* eq: -0,278 (0,000)
Player:
Opponent:
43,60% (G:11,21% B:0,36%)
56,40% (G:16,68% B:0,99%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,281...-0,275) - [49,5%]
Duration: 9 hours 50 minutes
3.Rollout2Bar/22 18/13eq: -0,294 (-0,016)
Player:
Opponent:
42,73% (G:10,10% B:0,36%)
57,27% (G:14,25% B:0,58%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (-0,299...-0,289) - [0,0%]
Duration: 2 hours 09 minutes
4.Rollout3Bar/20 13/10eq: -0,316 (-0,038)
Player:
Opponent:
42,99% (G:10,95% B:0,41%)
57,01% (G:17,25% B:1,13%)
Conf.: ± 0,012 (-0,327...-0,304) - [0,0%]
Duration: 38 minutes 55 seconds
5.Rollout3Bar/20 18/15eq: -0,319 (-0,041)
Player:
Opponent:
42,63% (G:10,20% B:0,38%)
57,37% (G:15,78% B:0,81%)
Conf.: ± 0,011 (-0,329...-0,308) - [0,0%]
Duration: 39 minutes 50 seconds
 
1   46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2   10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

3   2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10


         

 

                     
      is Player 2

      score: 0
      pip: 157    
     Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver      
     pip: 173
      score: 0

       is Player 1    
 
XGID=-a----E-C--aeD---cAe----AA:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.Rollout1Bar/22 13/8eq: -0,278
Player:
Opponent:
43,43% (G:11,32% B:0,47%)
56,57% (G:16,57% B:0,85%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,280...-0,275) - [50,7%]
Duration: 8 hours 55 minutes
2.Rollout1Bar/22 6/1* eq: -0,278 (0,000)
Player:
Opponent:
43,60% (G:11,21% B:0,36%)
56,40% (G:16,68% B:0,99%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,281...-0,275) - [49,3%]
Duration: 9 hours 50 minutes
3.Rollout2Bar/22 18/13eq: -0,294 (-0,016)
Player:
Opponent:
42,73% (G:10,10% B:0,36%)
57,27% (G:14,25% B:0,58%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (-0,299...-0,289) - [0,0%]
Duration: 2 hours 09 minutes
4.Rollout3Bar/20 13/10eq: -0,316 (-0,038)
Player:
Opponent:
42,99% (G:10,95% B:0,41%)
57,01% (G:17,25% B:1,13%)
Conf.: ± 0,012 (-0,327...-0,304) - [0,0%]
Duration: 38 minutes 55 seconds
5.Rollout3Bar/20 18/15eq: -0,319 (-0,041)
Player:
Opponent:
42,63% (G:10,20% B:0,38%)
57,37% (G:15,78% B:0,81%)
Conf.: ± 0,011 (-0,329...-0,308) - [0,0%]
Duration: 39 minutes 50 seconds
 
1   46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2   10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

3   2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
   Dice Seed: 31893245
   Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10


Martin

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Re: Bugverdacht: Chances to be best
« Antwort #1 am: 27. Mai 2016, 18:57:46 »
Fortsetzung (mehr als 2 DIagramme passen nicht in ein Posting):

is Player 2

  score: 0
  pip: 157
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 173
  score: 0

  is Player 1
XGID=-a----E-C--aeD---cAe----AA:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.Rollout1Bar/22 13/8eq: -0,278
Player:
Opponent:
43,43% (G:11,32% B:0,47%)
56,57% (G:16,57% B:0,85%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,280...-0,275) - [50,3%]
Duration: 8 hours 55 minutes
2.Rollout1Bar/22 6/1* eq: -0,278 (0,000)
Player:
Opponent:
43,60% (G:11,21% B:0,36%)
56,40% (G:16,68% B:0,99%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,281...-0,275) - [49,7%]
Duration: 9 hours 50 minutes
3.Rollout2Bar/22 18/13eq: -0,294 (-0,016)
Player:
Opponent:
42,73% (G:10,10% B:0,36%)
57,27% (G:14,25% B:0,58%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (-0,299...-0,289) - [0,0%]
Duration: 2 hours 09 minutes
4.Rollout3Bar/20 13/10eq: -0,316 (-0,038)
Player:
Opponent:
42,99% (G:10,95% B:0,41%)
57,01% (G:17,25% B:1,13%)
Conf.: ± 0,012 (-0,327...-0,304) - [0,0%]
Duration: 38 minutes 55 seconds
5.Rollout3Bar/20 18/15eq: -0,319 (-0,041)
Player:
Opponent:
42,63% (G:10,20% B:0,38%)
57,37% (G:15,78% B:0,81%)
Conf.: ± 0,011 (-0,329...-0,308) - [0,0%]
Duration: 39 minutes 50 seconds
 
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2 10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

3 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10


is Player 2

  score: 0
  pip: 157
Unlimited Game
Jacoby Beaver
pip: 173
  score: 0

  is Player 1
XGID=-a----E-C--aeD---cAe----AA:0:0:1:53:0:0:3:0:10
to play 53

1.Rollout1Bar/22 13/8eq: -0,278
Player:
Opponent:
43,43% (G:11,32% B:0,47%)
56,57% (G:16,57% B:0,85%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,280...-0,275) - [50,1%]
Duration: 8 hours 55 minutes
2.Rollout1Bar/22 6/1* eq: -0,278 (0,000)
Player:
Opponent:
43,60% (G:11,21% B:0,36%)
56,40% (G:16,68% B:0,99%)
Conf.: ± 0,003 (-0,281...-0,275) - [49,9%]
Duration: 9 hours 50 minutes
3.Rollout2Bar/22 18/13eq: -0,294 (-0,016)
Player:
Opponent:
42,73% (G:10,10% B:0,36%)
57,27% (G:14,25% B:0,58%)
Conf.: ± 0,005 (-0,299...-0,289) - [0,0%]
Duration: 2 hours 09 minutes
4.Rollout3Bar/20 13/10eq: -0,316 (-0,038)
Player:
Opponent:
42,99% (G:10,95% B:0,41%)
57,01% (G:17,25% B:1,13%)
Conf.: ± 0,012 (-0,327...-0,304) - [0,0%]
Duration: 38 minutes 55 seconds
5.Rollout3Bar/20 18/15eq: -0,319 (-0,041)
Player:
Opponent:
42,63% (G:10,20% B:0,38%)
57,37% (G:15,78% B:0,81%)
Conf.: ± 0,011 (-0,329...-0,308) - [0,0%]
Duration: 39 minutes 50 seconds
 
1 46656 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

2 10368 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

3 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
  Dice Seed: 31893245
  Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10


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Re: Bugverdacht: Chances to be best
« Antwort #2 am: 28. Mai 2016, 09:06:00 »
was mir an der Stellung gefällt:

Früher hab ich nach einem Match in erster Linie meine Blunder durchgeschaut...
ich denke aber die bessere Lernmethode ist, Stellung wie diese mit 2-3 annähernd gleichwertigen Zügen zu analysieren und aus den verschiedenen Spielplänen zu lernen....
wurde irgendwo mal publiziert - wie man am besten mit XG arbeitet, um sein Spiel zu verbessern?

In dieser Stellung setzt der beste Zug das Brett am meisten "unter Feuer"...

bei mir zeigt xg immer das gleiche Ergebnis...



« Letzte Änderung: 28. Mai 2016, 09:32:21 von taulajoe »